tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post5164229370982894060..comments2024-02-22T13:53:00.516-05:00Comments on Elizabeth Spiegel's blog: Elementary Cheating AccusationsElizabeth Vicaryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04880561980096775673noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-86986647620536738332008-05-25T21:55:00.000-04:002008-05-25T21:55:00.000-04:00Ian, yeah, like Greg says, it doesn't happen to my...Ian, yeah, like Greg says, it doesn't happen to my kids. Probably they are older and better able to say "You're confusing me with someone else." <BR/><BR/>But I definitely have a talk with my kids before I take the to Nationals/ adult tournaments about the unknowable degree to which any adult they may interact with might be insane. I make it clear that they can never be rude per se, but I also say that adults who confront them should not be taken seriously unless I'm there. Every chess kid should be told this-- there are far too many psychopaths out there. Any responsible/normal adult will get a kid's coach/parent before reprimanding them.Elizabeth Vicaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04880561980096775673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-61060627370754715062008-05-22T16:17:00.000-04:002008-05-22T16:17:00.000-04:00And then they'll have no choice but to join the NB...And then they'll have no choice but to join the NBA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-70769175826069666832008-05-22T13:37:00.000-04:002008-05-22T13:37:00.000-04:00I don't think kids get rattled that easily in gene...I don't think kids get rattled that easily in general. Most of the time parents are about 100x more concerned about every little detail than a kid who is 6th grade or under will ever be. If they end up losing, then it's probably just an excuse.<BR/><BR/> The general advice to steer them against it is to not make a big deal of it and teach them to not make stupid excuses (and especially don't make stupid excuses for them). It probably affected their game not much at all, but if you give a kid an opening to make an excuse for why they lost, you can be sure that most of them are going to jump on it, and it's not only going to teach them a bad habit for this one tournament, but a bad habit in life (they are going to learn that it's accepted and encouraged to constantly make excuses for failure, instead of taking responsibility and trying to figure out what actually went wrong).Greg Shahadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233341816210357863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-55809205517402482392008-05-22T01:28:00.000-04:002008-05-22T01:28:00.000-04:00You are quite right that in terms of the outcome o...You are quite right that in terms of the outcome of a game or a tournament cheating will not or hardly play a role. But in terms of people accusing other people without a possibility to proof innocense is another matter. That is a worrisome development.Temposchluckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977208394417444785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-79881627224439174852008-05-21T18:31:00.000-04:002008-05-21T18:31:00.000-04:00Elizabeth, this seems like iron-clad excellent att...Elizabeth, this seems like iron-clad excellent attitude about the issue -- I have a follow-up question. Round 6, and one of my kids went to the bathroom and was accused of being on that team. The TD planted himself at my kid's board for 20 minutes or something and the result of the game, you guessed it, a donut. Question is this -- it seems about a little less than once per major event, like 0.6 times per Nationals, I have a kid unwittingly get pulled into the wake of some nonsense, no fault of their own, but the result is always kid gets rattled, loses. Is there some general advice or exercise to steel them against this? I just assume that so many kids, so many tournaments, you've probly been round the block on this too.<BR/>IW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com