tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post1558401190070437580..comments2024-02-22T13:53:00.516-05:00Comments on Elizabeth Spiegel's blog: democracy is lameElizabeth Vicaryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04880561980096775673noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-12678476866835039102010-02-15T02:30:03.542-05:002010-02-15T02:30:03.542-05:00"Democracy is lame": you may want to che..."Democracy is lame": you may want to check out my blog, the "Anti-Democracy Agenda":<br /><br />www.anti-democracy.com<br /><br />CheersErich Kofmelhttp://www.anti-democracy.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-8276113242492817672010-02-14T19:32:38.597-05:002010-02-14T19:32:38.597-05:00Looks like the world won't be ending any time ...Looks like the world won't be ending any time soon. Sorry for the bad news.DPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-91043031275976846322010-02-14T19:29:56.730-05:002010-02-14T19:29:56.730-05:00Well, well, well. What do you know:
http://www.t...Well, well, well. What do you know:<br /><br />http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7026317.ece<br /><br />hehehe.DPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-65848947213020051942010-02-12T16:53:37.013-05:002010-02-12T16:53:37.013-05:00In your heart you know it's really flat.In your heart you know it's really flat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-16420961326805214352010-02-12T13:23:54.239-05:002010-02-12T13:23:54.239-05:00I thought the world *was* flat. What did I miss? O...I thought the world *was* flat. What did I miss? Or that was some weird joke??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-990805173325250652010-02-12T11:53:15.671-05:002010-02-12T11:53:15.671-05:00Thank goodness we have Julius G, to put this all i...Thank goodness we have Julius G, to put this all in perspective!Leon Akpaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473504681337786273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-58783764114582257522010-02-12T04:15:32.737-05:002010-02-12T04:15:32.737-05:00There are no better methods, maybe more positive m...There are no better methods, maybe more positive methods, but not better, of departing from the default, programmed worldview, then feeding your paranoia and not your mind. Perception is everything and you can free your mind by buying into a reality tunnel that is hopelessly negative. Free yourselves from the consensus worldview at Anjiaoshi Asylum, where you will worship myself and Anjiaoshi as Gods on earth, and obey every and all commands we utter, even when you've clearly witnessed us freebasing shoe polish and methamphetamines, this is the word of the Lord.julius gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-31774360762200558142010-02-11T22:57:06.828-05:002010-02-11T22:57:06.828-05:00DP is absolutely correct.
To Elizabeth, with Oba...DP is absolutely correct.<br /> <br />To Elizabeth, with Obama, the boy king, floundering and failing the loony left, and now, that the Global Warming religion has no clothes, what are you going to do? Why, let’s blame the media, the same media that propped the two up in the first place.<br /><br />And you said “I believe there is a fairly broad scientific consensus on global warming. I quote from the veritable Wikipedia:”. Did you know there was a fairly broad scientific consensus that the world was flat? How did that work out?Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-35033582395042845042010-02-11T12:44:28.337-05:002010-02-11T12:44:28.337-05:00DP is trying too hard to sound smart.DP is trying too hard to sound smart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-7148246442903244552010-02-11T10:54:25.517-05:002010-02-11T10:54:25.517-05:00To Mr. Anonymous:
Indeed. Mr. Chomsky's hypo...To Mr. Anonymous:<br /><br />Indeed. Mr. Chomsky's hyposthesis can be tested scientifically. All one really needs to do is quantify the number of media stories, either in what passes for the news or in popular culture (television shows, movie plots, song lyrics, etc) which place the blame on the world's woes on "socialism, activism, Acorn or Peta" and compare that number to the corresponding number of media stories that blame the world's woes on big corporations, the military (and it's evil business branch the "military-industrial complex"), big oil, the CIA, insurance companies, big pharma, etc. I wonder which number would be larger? Hmmm. What a puzzle.<br /><br />Q.E.D.<br /><br />Noam Chomsky: proof that not all intellectuals are smart.<br /><br />See you all at the team tournament, maybe.DPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-92221632012178388802010-02-11T10:01:12.176-05:002010-02-11T10:01:12.176-05:00In "Manufacturing Consent" Noam Chomsky ...In "Manufacturing Consent" Noam Chomsky suggests the media self polices through five filters. <br />1.What massive corporation owns the media? 2.How will the media sell the viewers to the advertizers and therefore make their money? 3.How can they create cheap and easy news by taking public relations information from government and corporations? 4.How can they avoid negative pressure from organizations like the Global Climate Coalition, supported by Exxon, Texaco, and Ford? 5. How can they beat up on someone to look tough and newsy? Perhaps blaming socialism, activism, Acorn or Peta?<br /><br />But don't take my word for it. The model can be tested scientifically.<br /><br />In the most simple and cynical summary, "Cui Bono?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-78576370630920826742010-02-11T08:19:04.616-05:002010-02-11T08:19:04.616-05:00"I largely agree with your politics but, have..."I largely agree with your politics but, have to argue that it seems clear to me that you would be one of the first to spout nonsense that x% of the population believes in some liberal cause."<br /><br />What does that even mean? I largely agree with you, but let me take this moment to insult your imaginary behavior?<br /><br />"Opposing the notion of global warming or evolution..."<br /><br />evolution? has it really come to that?Elizabeth Vicaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04880561980096775673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-54666000484784408732010-02-11T05:00:49.528-05:002010-02-11T05:00:49.528-05:00I largely agree with your politics but, have to ar...I largely agree with your politics but, have to argue that it seems clear to me that you would be one of the first to spout nonsense that x% of the population believes in some liberal cause.<br /><br />The media can completely manipulate the public. We are stupid tools.... Hell, in Houston we have had a pretty tame winter, but ONE day was the coldest in the past 100 years, and I don't know how many times I heard something about how global warming must be nonsense that day.<br /><br />I do think the opinion of the common idiot is important regardless of the validity of their stance. <br /><br />Science has become the modern religion, and is no longer held to the standards that it originally was. Someone proposes a theory and gets some financial backing, then it becomes the socially accepted truth. Opposing the notion of global warming or evolution limits one to a backwoods hick status in many social groups, despite the fact that both arguments are far more complex than they are given credit for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-57844691782075773722010-02-10T22:52:51.720-05:002010-02-10T22:52:51.720-05:00everyone, will you be my group-valentine??everyone, will you be my group-valentine??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-58656595435424179742010-02-10T21:56:24.502-05:002010-02-10T21:56:24.502-05:00this from a woman who posts a public poll on the t...this from a woman who posts a public poll on the topic of whether she should get pregnant. ;)katarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032591421971431222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-35296186946631552902010-02-10T21:05:26.443-05:002010-02-10T21:05:26.443-05:00Hallmark has a passion for Valentine's Day car...Hallmark has a passion for Valentine's Day cards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-46355015211998023572010-02-10T16:52:21.685-05:002010-02-10T16:52:21.685-05:00passion is a hallmark of groupthinkpassion is a hallmark of groupthinkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-37686131508524063532010-02-10T10:21:10.460-05:002010-02-10T10:21:10.460-05:00Climate gotterdammerung:
http://article.nationalr...Climate gotterdammerung:<br /><br />http://article.nationalreview.com/424508/climate-gtterdmmerung/the-editors<br /><br />Some food for thought for any interested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-73671925891958596762010-02-09T18:10:43.344-05:002010-02-09T18:10:43.344-05:00DP, you are living proof of the adage, "A lit...DP, you are living proof of the adage, "<i>A little</i> knowledge is a dangerous thing."<br /><br />I have to pity you, or I'll get too pissed off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-31693265935631974242010-02-09T16:35:57.334-05:002010-02-09T16:35:57.334-05:0030 years ago, anyone studying meteorology was taug...30 years ago, anyone studying meteorology was taught about the likelihood of global warming based on simple scientific principles.<br />Being proven right over time (based on measurement) is no solace for having warnings ignored for decades - when remedies were cheap - and now having people claim that it's all a leftist political plot.<br />The climate is apolitical but humans can affect it, positively (now only with extraordinary effort) or negatively (business as usual).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-80069997511690448712010-02-09T14:09:00.950-05:002010-02-09T14:09:00.950-05:00Hi, Jay.
Damn! Foiled again. I had you agreeing...Hi, Jay.<br /><br />Damn! Foiled again. I had you agreeing with me until I slipped and wrote that final sentence and revealed my otherwise brilliantly hidden secret agenda. Oh, well. Live and learn.<br /><br />I'm fairly sure that most understood that I was using the term "fascist" in the general sense to mean one who desires to dispense with freedom so as to have the power to enact his or her own idea of what constitutes "the greater good". In other words, leftists.<br /><br />But thanks for the input. Normally I wouldn't give much credence to one who is so overwrought that they manage to use the word "shit" twice in the same sentence, but for you I'll make an exception.<br /><br />Have a nice (globally warm) day. :)DPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-30438146763086832832010-02-09T12:53:47.492-05:002010-02-09T12:53:47.492-05:00DP:
You wrote: As I always say, scratch a leftist...DP:<br /><br />You wrote: <i>As I always say, scratch a leftist, reveal the fascist underneath.</i><br /><br />Unfortunately, this one sentence disqualifies everything you wrote above from being taken seriously. You can be taken about as seriously as people decrying the current administration as "Marxist". <br /><br />People who don't know shit about fascism shouldn't use the term loosely (and yes, your use of the term leaves no doubt you don't know shit about fascism).Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-12410802677110088982010-02-09T12:50:26.330-05:002010-02-09T12:50:26.330-05:00Throughout the history of mankind scientific conse...Throughout the history of mankind scientific consensus has been extremely wrong about many subjects. I see no reason why any person who can see the past and recognize all the wildly wrong ideas that scientists from our past had, would be expected to blindly believe scientists on a topic where there definitely is some dissent.<br /><br /> Also I am sure there is probably some nudging towards scientists to find evidence in favor of global warming, for various reasons. Usually when scientists come up with unpopular ideas they are mocked at and laughed at by the scientific community, regardless of whether they are right (ie the guy who told doctors to simply wash their hands before surgery 100-150 years ago was looked at as a crackpot for a long time. Below is a link)<br /><br />http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blantisceptics.htm<br /><br /> Even the Intergovernmental Panel that released a major statement stated that there is only about a 90% chance that mankind is causing global warming.<br /><br /> You see this kind of thing in all fields...even in chess and poker...whatever openings or theories are popular at the time, are espoused by 90%+ of the experts in the field. The 10% who don't are looked at as eccentrics. 5-10 years later when people start playing the Dragon Sicilian or the Kings Indian Defense, everyone forgets that these people were mocked mercilessly 10 years before by the biggest experts in their field. I see no reason why science should be so completely different and there is so much evidence to back this up.<br /><br /> Anyway if I had to guess I'd say probably global warming is caused to some degree by humans, because it seems like most scientists think so and they are right more often than they aren't I assume. Like even in chess most people realized that 1.a4 is not the best move a very long time ago. But I definitely account for the possibility that they are wrong and would consider it a bit foolish for someone who has no concept of anything science-related, to say that they know for 100% sure that global warming is caused by humans. Large masses of experts are and have been wrong way too often.Greg Shahadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233341816210357863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-61826143856787084102010-02-09T12:19:57.337-05:002010-02-09T12:19:57.337-05:00I hate it when people change their minds. Like ca...I hate it when people change their minds. Like capricious nutritionists who were first like "Eggs have high cholesterol, don't eat them; it will kill you." (Correct, by the way.)<br /><br />Now they're like "Eating eggs isn't that bad for you." It's lead directly to the murder of millions more Eggs nationwide.Liquid Egg Producthttp://www.liquideggproduct.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8556305125957341024.post-78887701050300264672010-02-09T12:08:08.293-05:002010-02-09T12:08:08.293-05:00The proles have always been dumber than dirt. What...The proles have always been dumber than dirt. What else is new?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03210965150187427574noreply@blogger.com